Driving with Dunne Podcast: The American-Polish Spy Relationship, Ukraine, China and the New Great Game

With John Pomfret, Author, From Warsaw With Love

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“There is talk now about having an agency to monitor investments by US companies into countries, like China, with which America has an adversarial relationship.” Guest: John Pomfret, Author, From Warsaw With Love

There are a lot of people in America and Europe willing to tell you that they "know China." In reality, very few Westerners really understand China. Fewer still can communicate what they know in clear and compelling terms. Then there is John Pomfret, a China veteran with deep hands-on experience. He is also an outstanding writer. Pomfret's landmark book, The Beautiful Country and The Middle Kingdom, is a tour de force that traces the relationship between the United States and China over the past 220 years. It is a relationship that shifts from wonderfully warm to icy cold and back -- over and over and over again. Pomfret's newest book, From Warsaw With Love, takes us to Central Europe to uncover the special relationship between the spy networks in Warsaw and Washington. This relationship has never been more important, given Russia's invasion of Ukraine and China's unrelenting efforts to swing Europe in its favor and threats to Taiwan. Pomfret is smart, direct and compelling.

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